Stein Magnus Jodal wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 09:55 +0200, Vidar Faltinsen wrote:
As I understand it IP Device Info will be feature complete for 3.5 and will be included as a new tool, now also seen from the toolbox.
We'll have to see about that, but I'll do my best.
Your best is good! In effect ipdevinfo will not be much used before we actually swap the links from browse to ipdevinfo in report, and I would very much like to see this for 3.5.
We should maybe consider updating tools with beta status in the minor/bugfix releases, and not only in the major releases, as with all other tools. It would be nice for the developers to get user feedback on new features/development more often than every sixth month and I think we all can live with the beta tools beeing a bit more volatile than the stable tools.
Will you use the RJ45 jack as icon (the one from IP Info center)? Perhaps better with an icon of a switch or something? How about "stealing" the Device Management icon? And then for the new Device History use a faded router icon, perhaps surrounded with a graph or cornered with a clock indicating history?
Personally, I really don't like the Cisco router icon, and try to stick to the Tango icon theme used for most of the tools. I've now changed to a "network server" icon on navdev. A network server is maybe not the most common IP device in a typical NAV setup, but an IP device none the less.
"network server" is approved. Discussed it with Morten also.
In addition - can you find an icon for "Device History"? We should get rid of the router icon here as it gives a too strong indication that this tool has info about a router. A better icon is one that indicates that this is historic information. A timeline of log file icon or something...
Suggestion for the text in toolbox: "IP Device Info displays all recorded information about a given IP address. If the device is a NAV registered switch or router a port view with details on status and activity is also shown"
I've just added: "Displays all recorded information about a given IP device or address. If the device is a NAV registered switch or router a port view with details on status and activity is also shown."
ok
Even if you are not reimplementing IP Info Center, is it possible to remove this as a tool from the toolbox and instead invoke the tool from the query page of ipdevinfo, in the case the given ip is not a NAV registered box?
I think leaving the two tools in the toolbox will confuse users (as indeed is the reason for merging the tools in the end).
What cases do we have for host lookup in IP Info?
a) Host unknown to NAV (example: 129.241.93.17)
- ipinfo: Shows DNS information.
- ipdevinfo: Shows DNS information.
b) Host known to NAV (example: voldsminde)
- ipinfo: Links to devBrowser. Shows DNS, subnet, vlan, org. Shows ARP and MAC data, and where least seen (switch,module,port).
- ipdevinfo: Shows everything devBrowser does (soon), DNS, subnet, vlan, org. Does not show ARP, MAC, last seen.
c) Host known to NAV and matching rule sin the "local output configuration" (i.e. usage=='sby')
- ipinfo: Same as for b) and additional links to external systems as decided by configuration.
- ipdevinfo: Same as for b).
Any cases I've forgotten, misunderstood or which are incomplete?
On b) there are two cases:
b1) known to NAV as a registered NAV device b2) known to NAV, but only as found in the ARP data and possibly the CAM data
Anyway, I agree with Morten's conclusion, that we can remove ipinfo from the tool box, but that we always should provide a link from ipdevinfo as Morten explained, i.e. from your "Action row" with the extra bullet: "View in IP info"
Actually - as I write - you have implemented this. Wow :)
- Vidar