Asset tracking features in NAV
One of the features we particularly wanted from NAV is asset tracking. Am I right that these features are going to be dropped from NAV? All I really want is some way for NAV to keep track of switches in the store cupboard (both new and recycled), as well as those on the network. I don't think we are ever likely to use any features beyond that. If this feature area is to be dropped, would be be possible to add an "inactive" check box to the main Seed database/IP Devices/Add screen? David -- Dr. David Round -- Network Engineer University of Wales, Bangor - IT Services Adeilad Deiniol, Ffordd Deiniol phone (01248) 382416 Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 2UX, UK EMail d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk -- Gall y neges e-bost hon, ac unrhyw atodiadau a anfonwyd gyda hi, gynnwys deunydd cyfrinachol ac wedi eu bwriadu i'w defnyddio'n unig gan y sawl y cawsant eu cyfeirio ato (atynt). Os ydych wedi derbyn y neges e-bost hon trwy gamgymeriad, rhowch wybod i'r anfonwr ar unwaith a dilëwch y neges. Os na fwriadwyd anfon y neges atoch chi, rhaid i chi beidio â defnyddio, cadw neu ddatgelu unrhyw wybodaeth a gynhwysir ynddi. Mae unrhyw farn neu safbwynt yn eiddo i'r sawl a'i hanfonodd yn unig ac nid yw o anghenraid yn cynrychioli barn Prifysgol Bangor. Nid yw Prifysgol Bangor yn gwarantu bod y neges e-bost hon neu unrhyw atodiadau yn rhydd rhag firysau neu 100% yn ddiogel. Oni bai fod hyn wedi ei ddatgan yn uniongyrchol yn nhestun yr e-bost, nid bwriad y neges e-bost hon yw ffurfio contract rhwymol - mae rhestr o lofnodwyr awdurdodedig ar gael o Swyddfa Cyllid Prifysgol Bangor. www.bangor.ac.uk This email and any attachments may contain confidential material and is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email. If you are not the intended recipient(s), you must not use, retain or disclose any information contained in this email. Any views or opinions are solely those of the sender and do not necessarily represent those of the Bangor University. Bangor University does not guarantee that this email or any attachments are free from viruses or 100% secure. Unless expressly stated in the body of the text of the email, this email is not intended to form a binding contract - a list of authorised signatories is available from the Bangor University Finance Office. www.bangor.ac.uk
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:24:27 +0100 "D.P.Round" <d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk> wrote:
One of the features we particularly wanted from NAV is asset tracking. Am I right that these features are going to be dropped from NAV? All I really want is some way for NAV to keep track of switches in the store cupboard (both new and recycled), as well as those on the network. I don't think we are ever likely to use any features beyond that. If this feature area is to be dropped, would be be possible to add an "inactive" check box to the main Seed database/IP Devices/Add screen?
We're removing parts of the asset tracking, which had fallen in to disuse and lack of maintenance. Specifically, we're removing the parts of the device management tool that allowed you to register products and product orders, and to register serial numbers of on-the-shelf devices. After the changes, what's left will only register your devices when they've been encountered in operation (i.e. serial number pulled via SNMP). When the device is taken out of operation and placed on a shelf, NAV will still know, as it keeps a record of all serial numbers that have been seen. I don't think NAV ever had any user interface to list devices that are on the shelf, even though the data is in the database. You can view the operational history of any device by searching for its serial number, though. A proper report listing on-the-shelf devices might be very useful to some, including you, perhaps? -- mvh Morten Brekkevold UNINETT
We're removing parts of the asset tracking, which had fallen in to disuse and lack of maintenance. Specifically, we're removing the parts of the device management tool that allowed you to register products and product orders, and to register serial numbers of on-the-shelf devices.
Thanks for the clarification.
After the changes, what's left will only register your devices when they've been encountered in operation (i.e. serial number pulled via SNMP). When the device is taken out of operation and placed on a shelf, NAV will still know, as it keeps a record of all serial numbers that have been seen.
We could still use NAV, but would have to temporarily connect all switches to the network as they arrive in order to let NAV see them. I guess this is possible, but it would be preferable to me to be able to fool NAV that it had seen the switch without the pain of booting/configuring it. This could be done with a small change to the Seed database/IP Devices/Add screen perhaps, rather than maintaining the asset management tools?
I don't think NAV ever had any user interface to list devices that are on the shelf, even though the data is in the database. You can view the operational history of any device by searching for its serial number, though.
A proper report listing on-the-shelf devices might be very useful to some, including you, perhaps?
It certainly would.
Many thanks David -- Dr. David Round -- Network Engineer University of Wales, Bangor - IT Services Adeilad Deiniol, Ffordd Deiniol phone (01248) 382416 Bangor, Gwynedd, LL57 2UX, UK EMail d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk -- Mae'r e-bost yma'n amodol ar delerau ac amodau ymwadiad e-bost Prifysgol Bangor. Gellir darllen testun llawn yr ymwadiad yma: http://www.bangor.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer This email is subject to the terms and conditions of the Bangor University email disclaimer. The full text of the disclaimer can be read here: http://www.bangor.ac.uk/emaildisclaimer
On Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:30:06 +0100 "D.P.Round" <d.p.round@bangor.ac.uk> wrote:
We could still use NAV, but would have to temporarily connect all switches to the network as they arrive in order to let NAV see them. I guess this is possible, but it would be preferable to me to be able to fool NAV that it had seen the switch without the pain of booting/configuring it. This could be done with a small change to the Seed database/IP Devices/Add screen perhaps, rather than maintaining the asset management tools?
You have a valid point. I think we should discuss adding a simple form to seed db for "Add serial number of on-the-shelf device". I'm creating a blueprint for this so we have it on record: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nav/+spec/register-offline-serial
A proper report listing on-the-shelf devices might be very useful to some, including you, perhaps?
It certainly would.
So I just added this blueprint as well: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nav/+spec/offline-devices-report Should be simple enough - a new report definition in report.conf is all that is required. -- mvh Morten Brekkevold UNINETT
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